Alabasta Animal Land. I think some forms of Ichigo are faster than POST timeskip Luffy, but I'm no expert there, not even close. Rubber insolates against lightning. Well if you want to make really specific and bold claims like that then there is only one appropriate response I suppose. Design Original : imprimé "One Piece" exclusif Grammage Supérieur : tenue parfaite - 185g / m² Coutures Renforcées : finitions haut de gamme Lavage Machine : 30 degrés (conservation optimale) Composition : 100% coton ... €20. Calcs like that are really hard to prove and back up. However, Akainu is simply on a higher level compared to Katakuri. Punching lava is a terrible way to destroy lava, Hashirama blocked Ultimate Susanoo strikes with his giant wood constructs. T-Shirt One Piece Trafalgar Law Homme. Who exactly is going to be the one that has more quantity of their element here again? No where in that scan does it say "light speed", Kizaru is light speed. tanking an attack from WB doesnt make him Country level, and lol the clash between him and aokiji was a island that not evn got destroyed by two characters of that level together lol, @aldoronthegoat: either way this is why feats in One Piece are inconsistent lol, Luffy is too wanked. That'd be cool. By all means bud show me where a One Piece character can go toe to toe with Rukia under her AZ State and then we'll talk. Like, it's logical on the fact that they're still physical. Bruh you could see the very contradiction of how me claiming Akainu or anyone in OP is remotely Continental, the fact you took that out of my words begs the question are you even understanding...all I said it was a big feat. Nothing supports Kizaru being LS except his own statements. Then DF are either magical or it means that Blackbeard has roughly the same AP has Whitebeard, just not by his physical body. How does that make him country level? And why wouldn't that make the others magic? Ensuite zoro vs gyukimaru, s'est dis CLAIREMENT qu'il avait aucune envie de le tuer, zoro se battait pour essayer de le comprendre donc de la aucun souci encore. Hashirama Just uses replacement and spams wood clones while he charges up Senjutsu somewhere safe. If Oda says light speed it doesn't make a difference if it explodes or not. It has nothing to do with their personal attack power. Science is totally invalid amirite? Sorry. You could call it magic to understand it better but it's not magic, it's more of what you said scientific reality warping, he creates a room and he can control everything inside that room. Also, based on what you've been saying, DF using can just do stuff. No that makes no sense whatsoever. Its irrelevant what Loda says,they dont act like real elements. Lol yea how dare I assume the atoms & particles of magma will barely, if at all move in an Absolute Zero state. The devil fruit is what gives the users the powers thus the user obtaining said power. Also the the mountains are not vaporized, if they were the craters would be hotter than the Schorch release. What is a Gura Gura punch? The idea that Hashirama's wood can't be burned is kind of strange considering that a major part of the Madara vs Hashirama rivalry involved Madara using Katon techniques against Hashirama's Mokuton techniques. Edit: That still wasn't clear. 7 Can't: Charlotte Katakuri. Where is it stated Akainu's Magma held an advantage over Aokiji's ice? It's ridiculous to equate Son Goku's or any other TB's loss against that ability as an actual feat against their respective elements. He can switch personalities, cut out your heart, make stuff levitate, cut you apart withoutout touching you, destroy your organs with Gamma Knife etc. Captain fierce fight Carew! Les rebelles contre l'armée du roi ! Watch all episodes of One Piece and follow Monkey D. Luffy on his quest to claim the greatest treasure, the legendary One Piece, and become the Pirate King. I would like to point out that Lava Release in Naruto is a thing in the same firm as Akainu via Goku and Hashirama kicked his ass hard enough to sell him off to Iwa. Except that Logias fruit are natural? La douleur d'Alubarna ! So that means that his light devil fruit is literally light? He ate a Devil Fruit which allows himself to turn himself or someone else into ice. There are a lot of factors at play. But if stuff like Law's DF isn't some type of magic and is some kind of "scientific" reality warping, then ignore my rant. Akainu also stalemated Whitebeard's Gura Gura punches which easily hold potency in the Large Country range. Rukia has more "AP" and does it nearly instantly from a range. Nope, this is proven wrong when Blackbeard can perform the same feats as Whitebeard in the Marineford fight despite being physically inferior. Is there someone that can turn into a rock and is he considered Logia and if not WHY? @pics: Not really. moonknight11. But his magma has an advantage over the ice. (matter erasure?? When the the hell did Akainu ever concentrate on Buggy? He is also the strongest among the three. Has this been done? Reforming takes a little time and effort for them when they're broken up to a far lesser extent. It's super effective! It doesnt explain it tanking a Bijuubomb. I might why aren't Logia nature and other fruits aren't? This was proven in Punk Hazard with artificial DF. It would make said feat more impressive for his Wood. I've already explained my stance multiple times. @lilyeezywest: Are there Logias that can't go intangible? I did say Akainu is LS because i didnt expect you coming with this wank. https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/spacebattles-merchandise.398032/, Maybe you can see Madara in there. Even Luffy is Large Island level in AP off Dressrosa feats. @aldoronthegoat: Wait, is it true that Logia still need to breathe while they are intangible? @ssjbatdan: He thinks pre timeskip Luffy is faster than anyone in Bleach, stop arguing with him. Luffy VS Crocodile ! The circled rock is one of the meteor's Madara summoned earlier, actually underselling, they outsize individual mountains). Durante a primeira metade da série, ele foi um dos três almirantes, e o último a aparecer na série. Tailed Beast Bombs work on the same principles as the Rasengan, they grind mountains into dust. One Piece Arcs Ranked From The Worst To The Best. Katakuri. You're not going to argue that this Akainu is MFL I hope? Clashing with Aokiji who already has country level feat is Country Level, Same with surviving attack from Whitebeard, And you have to be a complete jackass to think he scales below weaker version of Luffy who already has Island Level feats. She simply has a better win condition. @ssjbatdan: Law devil fruit isn't magic, idk how to explain it. Charlotte Katakuri is one of the Three Sweet Commanders of Big Mom Pirates. Bijuu being pure chakra are especially vulnerable to this. Forcfulling put it on you in an instant is another story in its own, but that's unquantifiable, so whatever. Katakuri is also able to use all three types of haki. The amount of volume he's pulling and doing so via earthquakes. Why are his punches country level and what suggests he was using full power? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Unless you're arguing that it is basically magic with its own energy separate from the user. On the pit of lava you could argue it was a threat for Sasuke but not six paths Naruto. The Devil Fruit would be magical event, just like a man shooting out fire would be a magical, by all means not normal that doesn't make its natural affinities "magical" because magical doesn't follow one definition, it means supernatural by our standards. It has no effect on his battle where Madara already had Kurama under his hypnosis. Logias have control over there devil fruit. Rubber does insolate against electricity. Akainu didn't have the element advantage, it was a battle of endurance. Someone like Whitebeard, Zoro or Akainu could just block such attacks normally with their basic weapon or fist. @ssjbatdan: That makes no sense whatsoever when Aokiji and Akainu stalemated. He's a paramecia. Where does that magic originate from, you know? Nope, this is proven wrong when Blackbeard can perform the same feats as Whitebeard in the Marineford fight despite being physically inferior. He'll have more trouble with non-chakra attacks such as Akainu's super lava no? Logia are stated to be based on natural elements. If it is I am very confused about something. They engaged in close quarters. The fact that they were explained as such, Zoan are all animals, logia is all natural things that occur in nature and they become and use that, that's their power, paramecia is literally anything that's not included in those two things, so when you say that paramecia can be anything, logia can only be natural or it's not a logia, and zoan can only be animals or it's not a zoan. I don't really have a stance on it personally. If Akainu had an element advantage Aokiji wouldnt have lasted long given his physical prowess has never shown to be on the level of Akainu and all Aokiji does is fight with ice. @aldoronthegoat: without ABC Akainu never shown anything above island level lol. Your arguments hold a blatant bias because first you claimed it was shounen to prove a point but yet using nonsense to conclude something has to be magical...because it can be passed on? Because for anyone with little common sense that would be enough to blitz the hell out rukia... Post-TS Base Luffy is FTL (He can see LS as something slow for him), And you just upscale from him to akainu, and this is just a massive blitz, I dont care about AZ because akainu just blitz and kills her, before she can even think, Lillie's light actually functions like real light. A strong enough lighting blast could, especially if it can be controlled. Blackbeard by far is not weak, but by far not a physical contender to Whitebeard. Blackbeard would be pretty broken if he could go intangible, especially if he were able to use his EQ while intangible. Either it's still dealing with extreme temperatures due to it vaping mountains, or it's something else. Katakuri's devil fruit— Mochi Mochi no Mi gives him unique abilities, and provides him a huge advantage in battles. For reference a mere 30 meter Tsunami takes 100+ gigatons of TNT using the Richter Magnitude chart. @pics: Sorry, I haven't slept in two days. It isnt unique to bijuu hashirama chakra worls on anyone. There is a logia that can't go intangible though, it's the dark dark fruit user, he's Blackbeard. Can you back this up with something more substantial than...whatever arbitrary nonsense you just posted. Wood release is famous for being able to manipulate and suppress chakra, that's why everyone is in awe of it. Katakuri has insanely strong Armament Haki. Characters that scale to him are bare minimum Rel, Ace dont produce smoke and real lasers dont explode and so on. Like, a rock is natural, yeah? "Rukia can beat every character in One Piece 1v1" Rukia wins via Comicvine Bleachforce. So Hashirama has experience fighting against individuals who utilize lava as their repetuar. Including any wood constructs Hashirama leaves lying around. T-Shirt One Piece Trafalgar Law Homme. La confrontation finale aura lieu à Alubarna ! So, he isn't clearly country level. How does something like Law's ability get explained as existing unless it is some kind of magic? you cant melt something that is at absolute zero lol, go back and study phsysics. Akainu can spam attacks not much weaker than a Tailed Beast bomb for 10 days straight without ever tiring. Anyhow, as I pointed out, the difference between negative temperatures and positives ones aren't linear, especially once you approach AZ. It's light, Idk what to tell you. If he can do it, certainly another Logia user can. Wouldn't that by default mean they can't survive in space and make it a gag? Lightning doesn't vaporize islands, Magma doesn't passively vape steel without making contact, Ice doesn't harden unimaginable above steel, etc. If Zoro vs King does happen I’ll enjoy it, but the best of Zoro will be what he dies against Kaido, And it really wouldn’t surprise me if Zoro vs King doesn’t happen anymore, it’s a fight that Oda has put no effort into setting up, while having Zoro totally focused on Kaido the entire time in Onigashima. We see naruto take on multiple fire techniques and a character made of lava and while he isnt unscathed it's more a second degree burn if it was actually a threat like Mook is saying Roshi would have punched a clear hole through naruto. How you are coming up with these arguments is astonishing and just making absurd claims that honestly don't even make sense. Akainu only changed half the layout of an island. I am not forgetting that in the slightest, it's you that's ignoring the point I made about how Akainu's lava is thousands if not millions of times hotter than real world lava and also ignoring how Akainu throw out quantities of lava that are easily a match for anything Hashirama can dish out in terms of wood and can keep doing so for much longer. I'm ignoring it. Is it related to his Devil Fruit? What are you talking about? Claiming that Aushwalen is not LS becuz in fiction light=/= ls is pure hyperbole bullshit lol, by saying that u are implying an infinite amount of variables about powers in fiction, if its described as a pure light , move like light and did the same Mimihagi feat but in a literal instant, then is light retards. They're not saying it's unique to bijuu, merely that the bijuu have a distinct weakness to it. How is it magical in the sense it ruins its natural affinity? When they heal, they heal from their parts. Do you have anything else to scale him to country that would make it more convincing? What part of nature does Law's DF come from? ... That's an artificial Df, you just said it. @ssjbatdan: What? Sakazuki, conhecido por seu apelido Akainu, é o atual almirante da frota da Marinha, sucedendo o almirante da frota anterior Sengoku. What are your thoughts? @aldoronthegoat: Rukia scales to LS and has LS feats of her own while Akainu is relativistic and highballed to LS vis scaling. @ssjbatdan: No one is going to argue that Akainu is MFL, what makes logia different? Une fuite miraculeuse ! 12/05/2002: 112: Rebel Army vs King's Army! Captain Actions/Boosted Abilities: Friend/Guest Captain Captain Gear Levels: Friend/Guest Captain: Wellllll...that's a very "magical" definition of "element" though. Started in 1999 and might end in 2025 according to some sources, Oda the writer makes us excited every time, Arc after the other. Let me highlight what I said. @ssjbatdan: Elements, logias are natural elementals basically, so no. Its basically their kryptonite. Hashirama's wood release is super effective against tailed beasts and chakra. There is no rock rock fruit though lmao. Still, Rukia Curbs and akinu aint speedbletzing someone who has LS reaction time, the Aushwalen is stated many time to be pure light, if u think otherways u are a retarded idiotic fuckboy lol, Logia´s are not real elements.Ace dont produce smoke and real lasers dont explode and so on, WB was unable to do shit against foddermarines, Old ass ray was able to fought against Kizaru, Akainu is overall a slow brawler,he never blitzed anyone and got even outspeeded by WB. The light-speed scaling is not effected when Kizaru has shown to act similar to natural light. Katakuri has a bounty of over 1 billion beris. They aren't natural, they're magical abilities. That doesn't work when Rubber in real life cant negate literal lightning. The likely reason Aokiji lost was because his endurance and defense wasn't as great as Akainu's as its stated Akainu has the most defensive devil fruit that we know of. His jutsu is effective for controlling them (somehow). Sorry, I wasn't very clear at what I was getting at. 05/05/2002: 111: Dash towards a Miracle! je suis etonné ,je le savais puissant mais pas a ce point la - Topic Akainu est le perso le plus puissant c'est confirmé par odada du 19-11-2018 01:29:02 sur les forums de jeuxvideo.com Like I said Rubber doesn't negate lightning. Replacement jutsu is taught to genin. That's why there is 3 different types of devil fruits and not one type, they're all different. The mountains destroyed by the average Tailed Beast Bomb are better referred to as large hills. I might be mixing up a bunch of x words, but people keep arguing that OP characters are country this, continental that, planetary that. Hashirama Senju (Naturo) vs Akainu (OP) Thread starter ... as many strong characters showcase Awakening (there are only 6 known Awakened Fruit Users in the series, Doflamingo, Katakuri, and the 4 jailer beasts, so just because the character is strong doesn't automatically mean they are awakened), so unless we get confirmation, it is a bit early to just say he is awakened. Sabo is also a very blatant example of this. As valid as me saying Akainu would melt Rukia with passive heat, Akainu still never shown anything on LS and anything above island level. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Could also be that when he absorbed WB's DF he absorbed all its AP. Les animaux d'Alabasta ! Because Whitebeard's Gura Gura Punches are used as punching force via cracking the air that creates earthquakes which rises Large Mountain Sized Tsunami's which take Large Country yields of power. What I'm getting at is something along these lines: is Law's DF magic or is it explained some other way? If physical rubber, which shouldn't hit a Logia user, has an advantage over Logia lightning, then Logia magma would logically have an advantage over Logia ice. 4 Can Defeat: Kozuki Oden Sabo is also a very blatant example of this. Of course they can, based on the strength of the user. The same logic applies to all your other arguments. We're really digressing here. @ssjbatdan: I never claimed Akainu was country level via that feat, though stalemating Aokiji's ice is a big feat given Aokiji can freeze an Continent of water. They are still paramecias though. By following such logic, you are apprehending Magma and Ice is relative to our own understanding in the world of One Piece. In the world of OP, Ice and Magma can operate on the same scale (which would be the likely case. Kuzan, known by his alias Aokiji (Blue Pheasant), is a character in One Piece. 19/05/2002: 113: Arubana of sorrow! No. I was annoyed and not thinking very well. He stomped them even after getting holes put through him and taking direct hits from Admirals, Never got out speed by Whtiebeard. If Rukia LS that must make Akainu FTL+ with same logic since Luffy had better feat then what Bleach stans are claiming as Light Speed Reaction. Hmm. Mountain schmountain. Lightning has different voltages, there are multiple instances where high-voltages has easily burned through rubber. Even a near dead Aura was able to react and blitz attacks from Hikone, as well as Kenpachi oneshotting him, Hikone did the same thing of mimihagi again, in a liter instant, making him LS by default at traveling speed, so stop with your assholes nosense logics pls, go wank you OPverse on Battle wiki lmaooo, Akainu still never shown anything on LS and anything above island level. He had a legendary record of never being beaten prior to the Whole Cake Island arc. By logic. JavaScript is disabled. or a tsunami that dwarfed the entire island of Marineford. Heck, even Genin like Lee can move at supersonic speeds. Blackbeard doesn't have physical prowess compare to Whitebeard, Whitebeard literally grabbed him by the neck and body-slammed him. Lmao at the retardboy Omnihater that claim :surviving outer space = resisting absolute zero lmao, the difference between 273.15 and 273.14 is higher than the difference between-100 and -250, go search it on google Opwankerking. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Elements has nothing to do with this when Aokiji's ice is ridiculously stronger. I do not fully understand the nature of Devil Fruits. But ok, even supposing Hashirama's wood was completely fireproof. And some users want to tell me this Verse is LS? How does freezing a continent of water make him continent level? Unless someone has some official numbers for both the Ultimate Susanoo and Pica it's not particularly fruitful to get out the measuring tape while making bold proclamations of which one is bigger. Ok you fucking retard,real lasers dont explode. @lilyeezywest: Why are the Logia for some reason natural when there are so many abilities that are natural, is my point. For a Logia like him that means he can transmute any part of the environment into lava. That is all that matters. @ssjbatdan: Logia is based off our natural elements that however doesn't mean they 100% act the same. Many anime fans have ranked ‘One Piece’ as one of the best anime series in the world. Until then keep spouting off subjects where bystanders like you hold little reasoning in. I mean, Luffy negged lightning because rubber. I mean, steal and rock are elements in a lot of things, so, meh. Anyways, this board seems dead of topic and we should prob stop digressing. And island level is mid-tier shit in bleach with people like Ulquiorra. And island level is mid-tier shit in bleach with people like Ulquiorra. You: Comes to the conclusion I am arguing Aokiji is Continental. This is shonen. I'm not saying this feat doesn't make it true, but I'm no physics expert. WOW. xD I've been up for nearly two days. Ninja just have too much utility. Citation of Zoro, Akainu and Whitebeard blocking a attack capable of cutting in half several mountains? I'm just going to ignore all the logical gaps that are going on. Katakuri and Trebol did that, so yeah you can, but your paramecia has to be something along those lines which you can make yourself seem intangible, but even then it's not Logias because it's not natural, Katakuri is mochi, and trebol is some sticky substance. @ssjbatdan: BTW, if DF's are magical it destroys all the lightspeed scalings. When the the hell did Akainu ever concentrate on Buggy? Can't there be paramecia that have the properties of Logia? That logic also allows Bleach fans to use those insane calcs based on shockwaves from sword clashes that obliterate mountains in the distance. Couldn't a crafty user of one pretend to be a Logia for a while and use that to their advantage? You think it is possible that maybe Aokiji is stronger than Akainu but loses because of their match-up? I honestly don't think it matters. This is Page 1 of One Piece 992, click or swipe the image to go to Chapter 993 of the manga. What do you mean by Aokiji being stronger? Son Goku like all Tailed Beasts has a specific vulnerability against Mokuton, so that feat really doesn't apply to all Lava users at all, him being able to suppress a tailed beast is nothing special. See ya. - Claims I'm asserting said feat is Continental, - Completely misses the fact I argue Whitebeard's gura Gura Punches are only large country. There's more than just Blackbeard's incident, there's Sabo's as well. This by far is the most illogical argument by far. You swayed away from my initial argument which why "Elements in OP are superior to our own" which is why Luffy can take such high voltage at a level our own rubber can't. Akainu is a Awakened Devil Fruit User. He is a former Admiral and once a part of the World Government but he was lazy. Assista a todas as temporadas de One Piece e siga Monkey D. Luffy em sua missão para obter o One Piece, o maior tesouro do mundo, e tornar-se o Rei Pirata! If magic can come from a DF, then there are some strange things going on if they usually are more natural in nature. In the world of OP, Ice and Magma can operate on the same scale (which would be the likely case). You must log in or register to reply here. If you don't get it, that's fine. Not at you but the other guy. He left the Marines due to Akainu becoming the new Fleet Admiral to whom he detested due to the mans cruelty and fascism. 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